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Quick for Vezina?

Posted 9:03 AM ET | Comments 16
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For much of the season the race for the Vezina trophy was a one man contest. Henrik Lundqvist of the New York Rangers was not only being mentioned for the Vezina, but for the Hart Trophy as well. If he indeed wins the Vezina I do not believe too many people, myself included, are going to question that result. He would be a deserving winner obviously.

However, should Jonathan Quick be elevated into the discussion with King Henrik? The answer is definitely yes.

Jonathan Quick has been the Kings MVP and it is not even close. Without Quick the Kings would be looking at the playoffs from their living rooms in round 1. With him they are now currently leading the Pacific Division by 2 points over the Coyotes.

Quick has been on the wrong end of quite a few decisions this season as his team’s offensive output has been about as big as an Olsen Twin meal.

In 15 games this season Quick has allowed 2 goals or less, and has taken the loss compared to 8 times for Lundqvist.

9 times he has allowed 1 goal, and taken a loss. Talk about not having any room for error. Lundqvist in the same scenario has take a loss 3 times.

He is now the league leader in shutouts with 10, three of those shutouts have come in 1-0 victories. Lundqvist has one 1-0 shutout to his name this season.

He is in the top 5 in the four major goalie categories (as is Lundqvist):

Quick 35 wins (4th), GAA 1.89 (2nd), Save % .931 (3rd), Shutouts 10 (1st)

Lundqvist 38 wins (3rd), GAA 1.92 (3rd), Save % .932 (3rd), Shutouts 8 (3rd)

You are really splitting hairs when comparing both of their stat lines.

I think the difference is that Quick does not have as much wiggle room for his team to be successful as evidence by how many losses he has taken while giving up 2 goals or less.

The New York Rangers are 11th in goal scoring with 2.71 goals/game

The Los Angeles Kings are 29th in goal scoring with 2.26 goals/game.

Both teams have competent backup goalies and even their numbers are extremely similar:

Biron is 12-5-2 with 2.38 GAA and a .906 Save %

Bernier is 5-6-2 with 2.36 GAA and a .909 Save %

Notice the records though. Bernier has more losses than Biron in 6 less games. The Rangers are able to have success with their backup goaltender in, the Kings are not, even though they have similar stats. This tells me that Quick has had to have a Superman kind of effort every single night for the Kings to win games, and for the most part he has. This has led to him playing in close to 70 games this season, only Hiller, Rinne, and Kiprusoff are on pace to finish with more games played.

Given how close all the stats are for both Quick and Lundqvist I would personally lean towards Quick getting the award. Both goaltenders are worthy but I think that Quick has a lot less room for error yet has still stayed strong and pushed his team through to what looks like a divisional title. I give credit to Quick knowing before he steps on the ice that if he gives up more than 2 goals, his team is most likely going to lose (13 times they lost anyways). That must weigh heavy on a goalie night in and night out. I am extremely impressed by his ability to stay the course and still produce in that kind of pressure cooker situation.

You can’t go wrong with either guy, but I think Quick deserves to be mentioned on level ground with Lundqvist this season, not the guy trying to catch the favorite for the award.


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Filed Under:   Quick   Lundqvist   Kings   Rangers   Vezina   goalies  
April 3, 2012 9:19 AM ET | Delete
Quick plays west coast.. That's why nobody thinks of him. He would get my vote
April 3, 2012 9:33 AM ET | Delete
big time Ranger hater writing this piece by the way
April 3, 2012 9:33 AM ET | Delete
The reason I hear for picking Lundqvist over Quick is because his team is better. To me that's a bigger reason to vote for Quick. I think he absolutely deserves it.
April 3, 2012 9:56 AM ET | Delete
I don't hate the Rangers as an NHL team. They have a lot going for them.
April 3, 2012 11:58 AM ET | Delete
jimbro83 - Yeah, he seems to be bashing Lundqvist all over the place!!! C'mon man...even if Gunner didn't like the Rangers..his blog here is very objective. Quick definitely deserves consideration...and if the Kings make the playoffs, he just might get the award.
April 3, 2012 12:06 PM ET | Delete
April 3, 2012 12:09 PM ET | Delete
FYI Just remember that if you type too much in one entry it will show up blank, you have to break it up into multiple posts
April 3, 2012 10:01 PM ET | Delete
Kozlov!
April 3, 2012 10:57 PM ET | Delete
i think one thing thats gotta be looked at is the number of shots faced each game, or the quality scoring chances given up each game. if quick faces a lot of quality chances a game then with those numbers he does deserve it, but i think la shuts it down the whole game
April 4, 2012 4:18 AM ET | Delete
If you are going to look at their own teams GF, you should also do the same for the teams they go against.Teams in Quick's division, excluding LA, have scored a total of 835 goals this season. Teams in Lundqvist's division, exlcuding NYE, have scored a total of 950 goals this season.The award should go to Lundqvist. Similar numbers against better competition.
April 4, 2012 4:18 AM ET | Delete
*NYR
April 4, 2012 8:11 PM ET | Delete
Why don't we look at the head to head competition. Quick beat Lundqvist in their only meeting in Germany. This cut/paste from the quote sums it up perfectly...Winning GoaltenderJonathan QuickLosing GoaltenderHenrik Lundqvist
April 4, 2012 9:54 PM ET | Delete
quicks played only 5 more games but has 4 less losses and he even got a W vs lundqvist
April 5, 2012 4:43 AM ET | Delete
moshe, your argument is invalid. Division goal scoring does not reveal anything on the individual basis. For all we know, the four atlantic teams could have simply piled on the goals agains the weak NE and SE divisions and the Pacific simply had great goaltending.
April 6, 2012 12:26 AM ET | Delete
should LA's ineffective offense boast quick's vezina chances? bc doing that essentially isn't giving lundqvist enough credit for the year he's having just bc his offense scores more. quick has had a phenomenal stretch run and he deserves a lot of credit as does lundqvist....but the GMs decide...not bloggers
April 10, 2012 6:56 AM ET | Delete
Lundqvist is in the top 5 for all 4 categories for goalies... 3rd in Wins, 5th in GAA, 3rd best Save Percentage, and 4th for Shut Outs. The Quick definitely deserves a nod but the real question is who gets the 3rd nod, mike smith or Brian Elliott.. Both of those guys have had great seasons... Elliot only played 38 games so i dont see him getting a nod but Smith has posted just as good of numbers as Quick or Lundqvist... (I bet Fluery gets the third nod though cause he plays for the pens)
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