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How much is that Hav-lat in the window
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Apparently, if one believes the rumors flying around HB these days, the Hawks are considering dealing RW Martin Havlat, perhaps to the Canadiens.
I believe there could be something to this rumor.
First, though incredibly skilled and one of the best forwards in the game when healthy, at $6 mil. per, Havlat has been a part-time player for the Hawks due to injuries. Further, there have allegedly been some bad feelings in the dressing room about his "superstar" status, a well-documented tiff with Martin Lapointe and, supposedly, an issue with clubhouse personnel over the relative ripeness of bananas (not kidding).
Second, the Hawks are most likely not going to the playoffs this year. At the same time, the progression and maturation of the teams' forwards has been much greater and faster than anyone anticipated. In addition to Pat Kane and Jonathan Toews, Patrick Sharp has emerged as a two-way threat. Dustin Byfuglien has a hat trick (and nearly a second one recently) this season, immense talent and yet can and probably will get a lot better. Jason Williams (a RW, by the way) returns from injury soon.
Third, Dale Tallon knows he has some holes to fill (#1 goalie of the future, a veteran top 4 defenseman, more size upfront, more scoring from the LW) and he wants maximum cap room going in to the off-season.
The Hawks made a significant offer to Peter Forsberg, for between 4-6 million per season. Had Forsberg accepted it, it was my belief that havlat was certainly gone. The logic being that the team could afford one $6 mil. per year part-time superstar, not two. That said, I saw no menntion yesterday that Forsberg is retiring or ruling out a return to the NHL after this year. It strikes me as funny that so many fans of teams that wanted Forsberg this season assume that his career is over because he doesn't feel 100% this year. Personally, I felt Tallon's interest in him was entirely for next year and the year after, precisely because he's still not 100%. So don't rule that possibility out, especially not if Havlat is dealt.
Which brings us back to the central issue: what is the asking price for the speedy Czech winger. I believe, based on the aforementioned, Tallon will want picks and/or AHL level prospects with legitimate NHL future. Tallon has stated recently that he believes this year's draft is a good one. And again, I believe he wants maximum cap room going into the off-season.
Finally, the Habs have the cap room to make this deal. I will also add that in my opinion, they are the best team I've seen in the East this year. And as Havlat has recently started looking like the real Marty Havlat, it could be a very good deal for them as they gear up for a Cup run.
JJ
I believe there could be something to this rumor.
First, though incredibly skilled and one of the best forwards in the game when healthy, at $6 mil. per, Havlat has been a part-time player for the Hawks due to injuries. Further, there have allegedly been some bad feelings in the dressing room about his "superstar" status, a well-documented tiff with Martin Lapointe and, supposedly, an issue with clubhouse personnel over the relative ripeness of bananas (not kidding).
Second, the Hawks are most likely not going to the playoffs this year. At the same time, the progression and maturation of the teams' forwards has been much greater and faster than anyone anticipated. In addition to Pat Kane and Jonathan Toews, Patrick Sharp has emerged as a two-way threat. Dustin Byfuglien has a hat trick (and nearly a second one recently) this season, immense talent and yet can and probably will get a lot better. Jason Williams (a RW, by the way) returns from injury soon.
Third, Dale Tallon knows he has some holes to fill (#1 goalie of the future, a veteran top 4 defenseman, more size upfront, more scoring from the LW) and he wants maximum cap room going in to the off-season.
The Hawks made a significant offer to Peter Forsberg, for between 4-6 million per season. Had Forsberg accepted it, it was my belief that havlat was certainly gone. The logic being that the team could afford one $6 mil. per year part-time superstar, not two. That said, I saw no menntion yesterday that Forsberg is retiring or ruling out a return to the NHL after this year. It strikes me as funny that so many fans of teams that wanted Forsberg this season assume that his career is over because he doesn't feel 100% this year. Personally, I felt Tallon's interest in him was entirely for next year and the year after, precisely because he's still not 100%. So don't rule that possibility out, especially not if Havlat is dealt.
Which brings us back to the central issue: what is the asking price for the speedy Czech winger. I believe, based on the aforementioned, Tallon will want picks and/or AHL level prospects with legitimate NHL future. Tallon has stated recently that he believes this year's draft is a good one. And again, I believe he wants maximum cap room going into the off-season.
Finally, the Habs have the cap room to make this deal. I will also add that in my opinion, they are the best team I've seen in the East this year. And as Havlat has recently started looking like the real Marty Havlat, it could be a very good deal for them as they gear up for a Cup run.
JJ
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04 Random Musings on the Hospital Ship Blackhawk
05 The Fields of Bannockburn
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09 Les Habitents et les Blackhawks
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12 Red Plummeting, Notes on a Freefall
14 Barker Drinks A Red Bull; Streak Over
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JJ, I'd love to grab him from you guys. You guys want a number #1 goalie or a future #1 that you can groom. We could offer one for each of those categories. Huet for a current #1 provided you can resign him, which wouldn't be difficult if you give him the contract length he's looking for, and Halak which is a promising young netminder that could be groomed. If you'd like either of those goalies a deal could definately work where Havlat is involved and a goalie and some other players are involved on our side.We have assets like Kyle Chipchurra which is an NHL ready shut-down centerman, great on PK and facing off against top lines and could take Lapointe's place if/when he leaves. But if we were to deal with you guys for Huet we'd need to grab Lalime back in return because we would definately need a proven back-up if we plan to ride Price through the playoffs.
There is no way Chicago trades Havlat for unproven talent.
I would get whatever picks / prospects that could be had for Havlat. Toews, Kane, and company are the future (a very good one) of the Black Hawks and should be built around. I think the Hawks should look toward the cup in a few seasons from now. Not next season and possibly not the following but maybe the 09-10 season./// I can see the logic in trying to obtain Peter the Great though. I would think that he would make an excellent mentor to the young core. Much better mentor then Havlat . Forsber, being an extremely intelligent player with awesome vision, could really be a great teacher. I think Tallons main purpose in making an offer to Forsberg was to find a better mentor. If indeed Havlat is acting as is rumored then I would get him away from that young core ASAP.
Eklund blogged yesterday that the Hawks want Halak. Could be something to it. I'm tellin' yas, Corey Crawford ain't the answer. Eh, XOXO, est-ce que vous etes Francais?
First off, please expand on that banana incident! As a Hawks fan in Canada, it's not always easy to get much info on the team.Secondly, I would trade Havlat for Huet any day, considering we could re-sign him. This does leave the team with one problem - probably 12M stuck with two GK. I really don't think anyone will eat up Khabi's salary, albeit for one more year. I would not mind Halak either, but he has not yet proven himself. I think we need to unload both Havlat and Khabi to better position ourselves for the run in 2-3 years time. And whereas Lang has been better than I thought he would be this year, I think sending him to the NJD (as rumoured) would not be a bad idea either. Not sure Rachunek is the right piece to be involved coming back though (Gionta would be nice - though he is small).
Out of curiousity, given we would be able to ship Lang to a team for a draft pick or some prospects, would you deal Khabi to TB in exchange for Brad Richards? I don't think TB is interested in Khabi, but they are trying to move Richards. Just a thought!
hawks13, supposedly there was a "blow up" about not having ripe enough (or fresh enough) bananas in the locker room. Heard it from a friend who has a (reliable) source on the team. I would take Rachunek as he fills a big time need on the power play. That said, if (and I don't foresee all these dominoes falling) Havlat was dealt to the Canadiens for Halak and a pick, Lang to NJD for Rachunek and Bulin to TB for Richards, the Hawks would be a better team immediately (IMO) and havea bit more cap room this off-season.
Is Eklund saying Rachunek for Lang? If so then he might be getting good info. on the hawks these days. because I also think there might be something to the Havlat/Halak thing he posted yesterday.
I think Habs would be better off with Hossa
So do I. Doesn't mean they're getting him.
I got that story (Lang vs. Rachunek) here: http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Hockey/2008/02/19/4857908-sun.htmlIf I am going to be honest, I don't think the Hawks will make any moves other than possibly dumping some UFA's in Zyuzin, Perreault, and Lapointe. If I were Tallon, I would try hard to bring in Campbell, Boyle or Kaberle.
TSN reporting that Montreal has a deal on the table for Tanguay?!?