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The Leaf Dilemma

Posted 3:38 AM ET | Comments 41
This is my first blog here at HockeyBuzz, so let me quickly introduce myself. I love the Leafs. I also love the game of hockey. Yes, I've played, and yes, I watch, just like many of you, but I would like to write with a style that encourages debate and discussion...if that's possible.

I believe that your opinion is only good if you can defend it, and "throwing" your opinion to the wolves is a healthy exercise if you don't mind being wrong, heck, being wrong means you learned something, so being wrong is actually a good thing.

Back to my Leafs, my beloved blue and white, and no, Tampa is NOT "blue and white", even though they use the SAME blue (the Blues use a different blue)...they have not and never will, earn this title. They simply chose the wrong colors. I live in Florida so I'm allowed to say this, I have enjoyed several Lighting games in fact.

Ok. Back to the Leafs. For real. The Leafs need defense, but not just any D, they need young, controllable D that can grow with this core. This means they should be looking for 1-2 players that are 20-24 years old, and can play top 4 minutes. This isn't easy to find. I keep hearing "rumors" that have Toronto interested in players like Alzner or Shattenkirk as UFA's...um I doubt it. Too old and too much "old" term. I hear they have interest in Tanev from Vancouver, too old at 27 and too unproven to pay top price for, so no. Brodin? Not going anywhere. Dumba? Possibly, but I don't think Lou wants to trade future assets and Minnesota can't take back a contract like JVR, so probably not. Spurgeon? Not going anywhere. Vatanen? Bidding war should take him out of the Leafs willing-to-pay-price, he's good but he's not exactly what they need. Montour? Not going anywhere. Josh Manson? Now this is a player the Leafs would love, but 2 problems.

1) Ducks don't have a protection slot to take back a player like JVR.
2) Will Leafs give up future assets for a player that is probably top 4 but most likely never top 2? Doubt it. So we have a conundrum...or do we?

This brings me to my D of choice...Jacob Trouba. He's 23. He's a right shot. He plays big top 4 minutes, and seems very capable of becoming a top 2 guy. He has size and some toughness (Leafs need), he can play PP and PK, and the Jets can protect a player like JVR in a trade. The Leafs would need to pay a premium to get him, but he's actually worth the price. rnrnJVR + Leipsic or Kapanen + 2017 2nd ----> Jacob TroubarnrnFire Away. Cheers.
Filed Under:   Leafs   Expansion   Trades   Rumors  
June 12, 2017 3:49 AM ET | Delete
Is this Manics?
June 12, 2017 12:57 PM ET | Delete
too much to give up..maybe JVR and a second..but not Kapanen
June 12, 2017 3:43 PM ET | Delete
pogo for bobby the john.
June 12, 2017 4:47 PM ET | Delete
Brandon Montour has just been eaten by a monster.
June 12, 2017 4:48 PM ET | Delete
Update: Because Montour was eaten, the Ducks have signed Niklas Lidstrom to replace Montour (previously eaten by a monster) in the lineup.
June 12, 2017 5:22 PM ET | Delete
thejonathans, can you please clarify? did he get uneaten? or is he still eaten? why is he no longer eaten by a monster?
June 12, 2017 8:11 PM ET | Delete
he is stil eaten. he is gone forever.goodbye montour.
June 13, 2017 1:31 PM ET | Delete
So how do you think Lidstrom will do with Anaheim?
June 13, 2017 2:57 PM ET | Delete
Do you think they will pair Lidstrom with Niedermayer?
June 14, 2017 8:56 AM ET | Delete
Your trade proposal for Trouba is a much lower value than what it would cost to get him. Obviously you need a 1st round pick to get him, not a 2nd. Definitely an A prospect and who knows if they would want JVR with only 1 year left, in which next year he would want a hefty raise. Probably additional prospects/picks on top of what is already listed would be required.
June 14, 2017 10:08 AM ET | Delete
Great read, great post. I like the JVR a second for sure. I'm nervous about moving kapenan. JVR second and Leipsic or Leivo sure but cap is a big game player.
June 14, 2017 10:08 AM ET | Delete
kap *
June 14, 2017 1:03 PM ET | Delete
No, Niedermayer is retired. Lidstrom could play with Lindholm i think.
June 14, 2017 1:04 PM ET | Delete
alexander87 you are no
June 14, 2017 3:53 PM ET | Delete
goodbye dan girardi and matt greene
June 14, 2017 4:51 PM ET | Delete
Who does Pronger play with if he isn't playing with Lindholm?
June 14, 2017 5:32 PM ET | Delete
Pronger doesn't play anymore. Here are the Ducks defensemen: Lindholm, Lidstrom, Vatanen, Fowler, Manson, Holzer, Bieksa, Stoner, and Theodore.
June 14, 2017 7:02 PM ET | Delete
thejonathans, you think the ducks will trade lidstrom to the leafs?
June 14, 2017 8:08 PM ET | Delete
Well they just signed him so no, i don't think he'll be traded to the Leafs or anywhere else. It's a pretty god replacement for Montour, do you agree?
June 14, 2017 9:23 PM ET | Delete
iz shane done going too reetire?
June 15, 2017 12:22 AM ET | Delete
Is anyone good besides Lidstrom on the Ducks D?
June 15, 2017 12:30 AM ET | Delete
yeah, Lindholm, Fowler, Manson, and Vatanen are top 4 defensemen.
June 15, 2017 11:09 AM ET | Delete
shane doan is going to play defense for the ducks
June 15, 2017 11:56 AM ET | Delete
no he isn't/
June 15, 2017 12:33 PM ET | Delete
yes he is
June 15, 2017 12:42 PM ET | Delete
not true, he will either retire or play for the coyotes i think.
June 15, 2017 4:04 PM ET | Delete
Does Doan back up Mike Smith in goal next year?
June 15, 2017 4:18 PM ET | Delete
Doan is a forward.
June 15, 2017 5:32 PM ET | Delete
Is he good?
June 15, 2017 5:52 PM ET | Delete
yeah, he's pretty good.
June 15, 2017 5:52 PM ET | Delete
but he's like 40 or something.
June 16, 2017 9:14 PM ET | Delete
June 17, 2017 8:45 AM ET | Delete
That's really old
June 17, 2017 12:24 PM ET | Delete
doan should probably switch to goaltending
June 17, 2017 7:59 PM ET | Delete
buddzy,1) Pretty sure Jets want to compete now, which means said prospect is NHL ready (Leipsic or Kapanen because they are NHL ready), and they would want a player like JVR who can upgrade their core immediately. I agree with the pick, a 2nd may be too low, but the Leafs won't trade this years 1st so it would have to be next year's if they added a 1st.Don't undervalue JVR. He's a premium player in his won right and he's on a very affordable contract. I think the real problem with the Jets being a willing trade partner in a deal like this is how do they replace Trouba? Another trade for a younger, less-proven player, or a FA signing...but that's the main roadblock if you ask me.
June 17, 2017 8:02 PM ET | Delete
capeandcali, while buddzy possibly undervalues JVR in this deal, I think you undervalue Trouba. The Leafs will definitely need to add a good pick to start talks in a deal like this. Trouba is a beast.
June 18, 2017 10:59 PM ET | Delete
Go Leafs and Lightning! Trouba is too expensive. Lets see what happens this summer.
June 19, 2017 10:14 AM ET | Delete
Do you guys think Doan or Iginla would be a better goaltender in Arizona now that Mike Smith is gone?
June 19, 2017 5:50 PM ET | Delete
obviously iginla. doan won't even be back
June 19, 2017 10:13 PM ET | Delete
Kind of crazy to trade Mike Smith, then not offer your back up goalie a contract.
June 24, 2017 6:24 PM ET | Delete
Not sure why all you guys are ranting over trouba, i am a Leaf fan that lives inTHe Peg. Trouba is not a smart defenceman. He makes lots of mistakes, dis younot watch him in the playoffs a year ago. Took stupid penalties twice, and bothtimes Anahiem scored and went on to win. Dumb as stone. Leafs don,t need that.
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