how you say that is beyond me.. really.. it makes no sence.. crosby plays with malkin, and the majority of his goals are tap ins.. you talk about all around players, lets loook at the stats...
when ovechkin is on the ice you fear him.. you fear his shot, his scoring, his hitting... that fear is not there for crosby.. crosby is great sure, but best player in the world.. keep dreaming... besides from the whining diving crying and complaining the biased officiating in his behavior is unbearable.. teams dont have players shadow crosby like they do with ovechkin.. lets compare statistics...
ovechkin had 23 more goals
crosby had 16 more assists
ovechkin had 7 more points
ovechkins plus minus was 8, crosbys 3
crosby had 76 penalty minutes, ovechkin had 72
ovechkin had 19 PP goals, crosby had 7
ovechkin had 1 SH goal, crosby had none
ovechkin had 10 GW goals, crosby had 3
heres a nice one.. ovechkin was 9th in the league in hits, with 243
crosby was tied with 5 players for 248th in the league with 80
crosby had 8 more blocked shots
crosby had 80 giveaways and 56 takeaways.. so dont say hes a great all around player... he doesnt hit at all.. turns it over more than he takes it away.. is 20th in the league in goals, while ovechkin is first..
heres another nice stat.. crosby won 51.3 percent of his faceoffs.. sure its a tad over 50%, but for a first line faceoff man thats not good... by any stretch of the imagination..
lets review.. ovechkin had more 23 goals, 7 more points,
a better plus/minus by 5, 12 more powerplay goals with the same amount of PP time , 1 more shorthanded goals, 163 more hits than crosby, 7 more game winning goals
crosby had 16 more assists, 8 more blocked shots... had more giveaways than takeaways, and had a faceoff percentage of only 51.3%.. out of the players who took 1000 faceoffs or more.. which was 51... crosby was ranked 28th.. thats less than average... so hes not even a better than average faceoff man.. especially for a first-line center...
can someone please explain to me how he is even close to being the best player???
Crosby: 1 CupOvechkin: 0 Cups
Top 3 Players in the League right now in no particular order cause they are 3 different types of players-Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin.
Jimbo83, thats correct, Crosby has a Cup and Ovechkin does not. That stat does NOT indicate that a Player is an MVP. Pitt had greater depth throughout their roster, clearly the determining factor in their series. Malkin was the workhorse for Pitts NOT Crosby. Ovechkin IS the workhorse for the Caps. No contest, STATS dont Lie......Ovechkin is the BEST PLAYER OVERALL!
Absolutely, the Top 4 Players in the NHL currently, and I might add, in PARTICULAR ORDER are: #1-Ovechkin, #2-Malkin, #3 ( Tie ) Datsyuk-Crosby
as Rangers fans, eventually we are going to have to learn to respect Crosby, no matter how few blocked shots he has.
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I respect him a bunch, I fear Ovechkin though!
Crosby = Great PlayerOvechkin = Amazing PlayerMalkin = Overrated Player
Does anyone know where to find Malkin's Stats for giveaways i'll bet its outstandingly horrible?
JermOz....I dont know where you were during the 09 Season or the Playoffs....But Malkin was on the ice for nearly every conceivable moment...while Crosby was either sitting on the bench or hiding down low behind the goal line......Malkin carried that team to the cup! Over-rated?!!! Thats a damn joke...oh by the way, I HATE the friggin Penguins and theyre consistent Whiny ways.......but geez, Malkin Over-rated....you're over-rated!
One day, Ovechkin is going to try to hit somebody and he is going to get his teeth knocked down his throat. I enjoy his enthusiasm, and think his all-round play is amazing, but some of his hits are questionable at best.
I never met nor saw a hockey player that intended to check another player- POLITELY!!!! If I did, he would be wearing PINK SKATE LACES I assume....but you know what happens when you assume.
You are forgetting one very important thing. Team leadership. Crosby has tons of it. Ovechkin none. Okay, very little. As for Malkin, not only did he win the scoring title, he has got to be the most under-rated player defense wise in the league. And he jack slapped Zetterberg like a rag doll. If he was allowed he would drop quite a few of the big boys.
malkin most under-rated player defensively? do you watch hockey? LOL
well done!
Accepted, Crosby has leadership skills, Malkin doesnt speak very good English, but if he did, he would be as much as if not more of a leader than Crosby is. Crosby would rank much higher for me ( and ALOT others ) if he wasnt such a prick...he plays a great game, likes to play physical but when he gets hit he flops like a lil school girl who just got her saddle shoes dirty.
...besides, since he's been coddled by Mario ( another Superstar that every call his way since his inception into hockey along with Jaromir Jagr until he left Pitt )and is a spoiled little wuss...he reminds of the typical Super Jock in school that cried everytime he screwed up and lost and was beaten fairly but someone who rose to the top on that day---Ive got no place in my heart for such an character....sorry
I'm not a big Crosby fan but you have to respect him. Am I the only one who sees some shades of the Oilers of the '80's in this Pens team? Crosby is a very similar player to Gretzky while Malkin is closer to Messier with his physical play. Not exact but close. I just don't like Crosby because he's a Penguin and a whiny crybaby.
major idiot here