Toronto-LA trade possibility
Posted 10:00 AM ET | Comments 11
Hey, guys, I just heard early this morning that Burke may be looking Los Angela's way. The latest rumor coming out of Toronto is that Burke is looking to unite the Schenn Brothers. To LA goes Tomas Kaberle and either Mikhail Grabovski or Nik Kulemin and to Toronto goes Brayden Schenn, Wayne Simmonds and a 2nd rounder in 2011. This is just another rumor, remember, it could be total bs, but this one is really exiting.
In the 2009 entry draft, Burke was looking at Schenn and Kadri. When LA took Schenn, the choice was simple, but the rumors were that Burke wanted(and tried to trade for) Schenn later on. Burke has stated all along that for Kaberle, he must recieve immediate help to the current roster. He'll get that in Simmonds, but as good as Simmonds is he's still not on the level of a Bobby Ryan, Nathan Horton or Marc Savard. Schenn and the draft pick makes the deal more balanced, because of both Simmonds and Schenn's upsides, and the unknown value of the draft pick.
Burke has also said that no offer that he has been given comes close to what he is looking for, and if LA is in the mix for Kaberle, you'd have to think that Burke has Schenn in his sights.
If Kaberle is to be moved, then the time is now. Kabby only has one year left on his contract, next year he'll be in the "rental player" status, so his full value is in this window that opened on dreft day. I think that after July 1st, when guys like Paul Martin and Dan Hamhuis are off the market, then Kaberle's value goes up, especially if LA misses out on Gonchar, Martin and Hamhuis. This might intice them to tip the scales their way by adding in the "one that got away" from Burke. As it stands right now, Simmonds and the pick are all that LA has offered, but Schenn's name has come up from the Leafs' side. LA might do it because an offensive d-man like Kabby would put them into contender status, in my opinion.
Recently LeafsTV ran a behind the draft episode on the 2009 entry draft, it showed Burke have an interest in moving Kabby to LA, and Burke saying "that's all you need" to LA GM Dean Lombardi. Based on LA's success this past year, Lombardi may agree and pull the trigger to put top d-man Drew Doughty with a 12-year vet like Kaberle.
Again, this is all speculation, but I will stay on top of it as best I can and keep you all updated on the things I hear. Take care.
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In the 2009 entry draft, Burke was looking at Schenn and Kadri. When LA took Schenn, the choice was simple, but the rumors were that Burke wanted(and tried to trade for) Schenn later on. Burke has stated all along that for Kaberle, he must recieve immediate help to the current roster. He'll get that in Simmonds, but as good as Simmonds is he's still not on the level of a Bobby Ryan, Nathan Horton or Marc Savard. Schenn and the draft pick makes the deal more balanced, because of both Simmonds and Schenn's upsides, and the unknown value of the draft pick.
Burke has also said that no offer that he has been given comes close to what he is looking for, and if LA is in the mix for Kaberle, you'd have to think that Burke has Schenn in his sights.
If Kaberle is to be moved, then the time is now. Kabby only has one year left on his contract, next year he'll be in the "rental player" status, so his full value is in this window that opened on dreft day. I think that after July 1st, when guys like Paul Martin and Dan Hamhuis are off the market, then Kaberle's value goes up, especially if LA misses out on Gonchar, Martin and Hamhuis. This might intice them to tip the scales their way by adding in the "one that got away" from Burke. As it stands right now, Simmonds and the pick are all that LA has offered, but Schenn's name has come up from the Leafs' side. LA might do it because an offensive d-man like Kabby would put them into contender status, in my opinion.
Recently LeafsTV ran a behind the draft episode on the 2009 entry draft, it showed Burke have an interest in moving Kabby to LA, and Burke saying "that's all you need" to LA GM Dean Lombardi. Based on LA's success this past year, Lombardi may agree and pull the trigger to put top d-man Drew Doughty with a 12-year vet like Kaberle.
Again, this is all speculation, but I will stay on top of it as best I can and keep you all updated on the things I hear. Take care.
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no way you get that much in return for kaberle and grabovski/kulemin's rights
I'm as big as a leaf fan as you get, but we're dreaming in rose coloured glasses if we think this deal has any truth to it...now way Kaberle fetches 2 highly touted prospects AND a pick...I'd be happy with only one of those prospects!
IF LA is trying to sign Kovy...then I think a deal is possible with toronto eating some LA salary. Maybe something like this:Kaberle and Kulemin for Justin Williams, and Simmonds. No way we get schenn as well
whats the point in throwing out names if all your doing is throwing out names. Fat chance in getting those guys out of LA. So your telling me that Kaberle and either Grabovski/Kulemin is worth Schenn(1st round pick) Simmonds (2nd round pick) another 2nd round pick. I dont think so and I dont think LA thinks so as well.
Don't be haters guys, Talon's just reporting on a rumour. BTW, if you told me last year that we could get rid of Blake, Stajan, Toskala, Hagman, Mayers and White and in return get a good prospect in Aulie and a Norris Trophy finalist and a Conn Smythe trophy winner for that lot I would have asked for a drug test
I think you still need that drug test! Tell them to check for something that makes u delusional. When Avery tell Dion he knows what color Elisha's panties are again, that Norris finalist year is but a fond memory.
While the Kings are in the market for a 3-4 D-man, Kaberle would work for the Kings, but Dean Lomardi has a hard-on for Simmonds, he's close to untouchable as Doughty is. Rumor has it, Simmonds was the deal breaker in the Kovi to LA trade back in Feb.
not a chance, the leafs would be lucky to get simmonds and 5th for kaberle... maybe kaberle, kadri and grabovski/kulemin for simmonds, schenn and a 2nd. Kaberle isn't worth nearly what Burke is asking for. He may be one of the best puck-movers in the league, but the defensive side of his game is horrible...
IF this were to happen and a big fat IF, Kaberle wouldn't play with Doughty, Doughty is a puck mover why put two Offensive D on one pairing? Doughty is just fine with Scuds
I don't get why everyone is so high on Wayne Simmonds. Yeah hes a young guy who had a decent season, but who knows if this guy is for real? I keep hearing "LA would never do Kaberle for Simmonds"... well I would want the Leafs to get someone a bit more proven than Simmonds.
you are one of the reasons the leaf fanbase is hated so much. this is completely ridiculous and to even post it is retarded. your package would not even come close to getting simmonds or schenn alone. do yourself a favor and learn more about the business end of hockey and take off your rose colored glasses before posting