Intent
Posted 1:43 PM ET | Comments 15
As I have discussed this with another HB blogger (Ice), we are on the same page in reference to Cooke.
As Ice noted in the larger sense what needs to end is the INTENT from the players. We can also throw in the lack of respect that the players have for each other as well. I originally mentioned INTENT because in all the hits the intent appears to be to injure the player not just take him off the puck. Now, no player is going to openly come out and say that's their INTENT but as we the fans watch, you can clearly see what they are trying to do.
Everyone is going to say that hit was clean and he used his shoulder. Other's will say, the equipment is to blame for all these injuries. Either way, you can still hit in the game of hockey w/o taking the guys head off.
These shots should've been addressed when Scott Stevens was laying down the law but no one saw the light of day. They only saw the highlight film hits. Stevens laid out some very good players and all the hits were deemed legal by the rule book but as we are seeing, but clearly the intent was to injure. He knocked out Francis and Lindros to name a few. The only thing that was said was to make sure you keep your head up when you are around him. So, all the responsibility is on the person being hit not on both players. Hit the player to take him off the puck not to ruin his career. It's ironic how after all these years Stevens career ended due to post concussion syndrom.
One of things that need to happen is the NHLPA needs to step up and create a board to monitor it's own players along with the league. Although you know that's not going to happen since the NHLPA is a mess right now.
Carter, Richards, Cooke to name a few players need(ed) to be suspended to make sure the point comes across about hitting to the head. Now, some people may say a person like Chara will always hit someone in the head because of his height. Although that maybe true, what is his intent and you can see most of the time he hits clean. He's taking the body.
It's the jumping, the elbow waving, the shoulder leads that needs to be addresses. Save the highlight hit for another day near the boards and skate away. The respect is not there like it used to be. Plus, some can say that its due to the instigator penalty. I don't disagree because there is no policing these days on the ice because you don't want that extra penality. I don't know about Cooke but if he had to fight his battles more often, he might tone down his crazy hits. The same could be said for Ovie who plays reckless because he knows (most of the time) the league will turn the other cheeck. The same could be said for Malkin. Richards at least fights when he's called upon. He fought McCabe, and then Booth.
I know I may be leaving a few other players out but really I think we all get the point. The league office needs to get away from the Old Boys Club or someone is going to get killed on the ice.
Cooke needs to be suspended to send a message to the rest of the league. I was openly impressed of Crosby's quote about the hit since it appeared as though he called out his own player. That's what a Captain does and it did it well.
As Ice noted in the larger sense what needs to end is the INTENT from the players. We can also throw in the lack of respect that the players have for each other as well. I originally mentioned INTENT because in all the hits the intent appears to be to injure the player not just take him off the puck. Now, no player is going to openly come out and say that's their INTENT but as we the fans watch, you can clearly see what they are trying to do.
Everyone is going to say that hit was clean and he used his shoulder. Other's will say, the equipment is to blame for all these injuries. Either way, you can still hit in the game of hockey w/o taking the guys head off.
These shots should've been addressed when Scott Stevens was laying down the law but no one saw the light of day. They only saw the highlight film hits. Stevens laid out some very good players and all the hits were deemed legal by the rule book but as we are seeing, but clearly the intent was to injure. He knocked out Francis and Lindros to name a few. The only thing that was said was to make sure you keep your head up when you are around him. So, all the responsibility is on the person being hit not on both players. Hit the player to take him off the puck not to ruin his career. It's ironic how after all these years Stevens career ended due to post concussion syndrom.
One of things that need to happen is the NHLPA needs to step up and create a board to monitor it's own players along with the league. Although you know that's not going to happen since the NHLPA is a mess right now.
Carter, Richards, Cooke to name a few players need(ed) to be suspended to make sure the point comes across about hitting to the head. Now, some people may say a person like Chara will always hit someone in the head because of his height. Although that maybe true, what is his intent and you can see most of the time he hits clean. He's taking the body.
It's the jumping, the elbow waving, the shoulder leads that needs to be addresses. Save the highlight hit for another day near the boards and skate away. The respect is not there like it used to be. Plus, some can say that its due to the instigator penalty. I don't disagree because there is no policing these days on the ice because you don't want that extra penality. I don't know about Cooke but if he had to fight his battles more often, he might tone down his crazy hits. The same could be said for Ovie who plays reckless because he knows (most of the time) the league will turn the other cheeck. The same could be said for Malkin. Richards at least fights when he's called upon. He fought McCabe, and then Booth.
I know I may be leaving a few other players out but really I think we all get the point. The league office needs to get away from the Old Boys Club or someone is going to get killed on the ice.
Cooke needs to be suspended to send a message to the rest of the league. I was openly impressed of Crosby's quote about the hit since it appeared as though he called out his own player. That's what a Captain does and it did it well.
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He should be suspended and I say should be 5-6 games this is much worse than Lapierre hit and he is repeat offender. I do not mind this idea of penalty for hit to the head by shoulder if it was the hitters fault. I would hate to see this penalty called if the person getting hit has his head down and it is his fault. Same goes for suspensions if the hittees head is down and he is to blame should be no suspension
thanks for the comment...i would love to see more respect between the players...i think that's what is lacking the most...
i agee respect between players is gone and then you get these stupidities, usually the "clean" head hits is because the hittee put himself in that position and should be the one faulted for getting hit in the head. I mean most of lindros head hits were his own doing only one i would blame on the hitter is the Stevens hit being Steven always hit with his elbows
yes i agree...i would rather see a player turn away then go for the highlight it. Lindros didn't learn the basics of keeping his head up. LOL
like the guerin hit on B. Sutter guerin was making a play get sutter way from the puck the problem was sutter was readhing for the puck and in bad position. The AO hit on Jagr in OLY was a great hit nothing dirty with it and I would not want to see that kind of hit suspended
What's going to happen is a crackdown on all of those hits because of what is going inside the head. Ovie was a good hit but I would still steer onto the topic of intent. it's going to be called until some type of respect is placed in the game. It's sad it's reached this point.
Jagr had the puck he had intent to get the puck from him and htting is a way to do that.you bodycheck some to slow them down or stop them and that wat AO did i mean hell your pretty much saying then any open ice hit will become illegal but those are the best hits and if that happens some1 could pretty much skate one end to the other without anyone stopping, you poke at the puck u may trip the guy , you hit him you may get a penalty..
habbies, i'm just saying what i think will happen...i hope it doesn't...but really the league often times go to the extreme and over time bring a balance to what they are trying to do. that's my point. Remember i did say Ovie's hit was a good hit. It's going to be interesting. too many people are getting hurt. our brains are not meant to be constantly swimming and hitting our skulls....
I agree but hell if i want to watch no hitting i would watch womans hockey (no knock against woman's hockey) but then again only worthwhile watching USA v Can in womans but they use the speed and have nice passing being hitting is out. I still love hitting and should be in as you said the players need to grow respect for one another
If you look at Mast's blog you will notice cooke had elbow down and it was a shoulder, he was just hitting savard with shoulder but savard head was in bad location. Problem with this hit is that Savard was in bad position yes but he did not have the puck. Cooke hit was not impending the player with the puck.
I rarely agree with Flyers fans as you well know phi (have you and I EVER agreed?) but this is one case where I do. Another great incident I point to in my blog on this topic is the Gonchar/Clutterbuck situation.
I also think we need to reconsider the injury issue. Andy Sutton never should have been suspended for his hit on Pascal Dupuis. Dupuis was protecting the puck in his skates, turned his back to Sutton and got knocked down. That's not even a penalty under the NHLs rules. Meanwhile some LA Kings rookie boards (and charges) Kent Huskins. No injury, 2 minute penalty, no suspension.
Exactly...when it comes to the passion each of us share in regards to our teams it leaves little to agree with but when it comes to hockey issues, we can come to some type of agreement. thanks Bryan.
Take the weaponized hard covering off the shoulder/upper arm pads. Players will be much less reckless charging into the walls and into each others heads without the body armor! That is all it will take!
In order for the league to suspend a player the hit needs to be illegal. Thats the problem. None of the 3 instances you mentioned were illegal hits. Waiting until the end of the summer to pass the ruling down is rediculous as well. Funny thing is the rule they are about to pass still does not address the types of hits Stevens used to unleash on his victims.