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The NHL has all kinds of players.

Some are skilled scorers.

Some are in your face competitors.

Some are there just to throw punches.

Sean Avery is a rare breed. He posses a little bit of each of these qualities, which in today's NHL makes him a valuable member to his team...well...on most night's anyway.

Yesterday Avery proved again why even though he can be an effective player on a few different levels...he can also behave like a complete idiot and in the process, make his team, their city and the league look bad.

When he was called out, in a way that abides by the "rules of engagement" within the NHL (as crazy as that sounds) by Lady Smid, he had to choose one of two responses that also abides by those rules.

1) fight
2) decline the fight

What Avery did was cowardice. He declined the fight until Smid thought they weren't going to fight...then he decided to take a sucker punch at a guy who wasn't ready.

Maybe it's all part of Avery's "master plan" that ensures he will continue to be effective in his role. Guys like him, they need other players and fans to despise them in order to do their job the right way...and this kind of move certainly will help that to continue.

Or maybe, just maybe, he crossed the line for the last time.

It will be interesting to see if Avery, a repeat offender, will be disciplined by the league for his actions. Certainly, there are a lot of people that feel he should be.

Even more interesting will be to see what type of reaction, if any, this gets from other players during games played the rest of the season. While the Oilers and Rangers don't meet again during the regular season...and it's highly unlikely we would see these two teams in a Cup final, Smid MUST have some friends on other teams that face the Rangers in what's left of this season. Surely one of them might like to even the score with Mr. Avery.

P.S. I would like to go on record by saying I don't agree with the way Crosby has handled some of his fights either. While he hasn't done anything exactly like this (what Avery did) before, he has tried to catch guys before they are ready...which to me is not the way it should be done.

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November 15, 2010 12:33 PM ET | Delete
It's Ladislav SMID. And I agree, Avery is a joke and he should have been banned from the NHL a long time ago.
November 15, 2010 12:38 PM ET | Delete
Even Avery's own teammates consider him an embarassment.
November 15, 2010 12:40 PM ET | Delete
Avery is GOD
November 15, 2010 1:26 PM ET | Delete
It's Ladislav SMID. And I agree, Avery is a joke and he should have been banned from the NHL a long time ago. ---sorry corrected it right after I posted it...
November 15, 2010 2:38 PM ET | Delete
I agree with everything you said.
November 15, 2010 2:48 PM ET | Delete
November 15, 2010 2:48 PM ET | Delete
atleast u made the comment about crosby.. who likes to punch players in the nuts from behind.. if we really want to be honest.. shouldnt malkin, a repeat "slew footer" be suspended before avery? averys never really went after anyone with the intent to injure.. just annoy. technically MALKIN is more dangerous to other players when hes on the ice than avery is. No?
November 15, 2010 2:49 PM ET | Delete
i understand hes a pest and hes annoying.. but he is VERY EFFECTIVE, and no one can argue that.. u call avery a repeat offender, yet hes never been suspended for on ice conduct. NEVER. ud love him if he were on your team.
November 15, 2010 2:49 PM ET | Delete
someone commented that averys teammates dislike him. that is just fundamentally untrue. that person is an ignorant tard. if u follow the rangers, the majority of his teammates like him, and he is extremely close with lundqvist and gaborik (just go to averys bar in NYC and ill bet ull see half the rangers team there)..
November 15, 2010 2:50 PM ET | Delete
and to add a note. smid tried to start a fight with avery. which avery at first declined. that smid said something that made avery go after him. im sorry but if ur going to continously challenge someone for a fight u need to be ready for it. are u guys telling me that never in your life have u declined a fight and than went after that person cause he said something that pissed you off? no one has ever made a comment that has made u go over the edge?
November 15, 2010 2:51 PM ET | Delete
so before a pens fan, or any fan for that matter goes and says avery should be banned, just remember atleast ONE player on your team has been suspended more times than him and his injured more players. malkin, crosby, kovalchuk, RICHARDS. all those players are more dangerous to other players than avery. the guys a pest and he helped us win yesterday. get over it edmonton.
November 15, 2010 3:08 PM ET | Delete
wow look at al the Avery defenders lol
November 15, 2010 3:30 PM ET | Delete
Avery has a job. It is to annoy and at times play very good hockey. That is all I heard about in the news today, "Avery". Therefore, well done Avery! You did your job. You da'man. And I have to admit I am a huge Crosby fan. I have to agree with the column. I personally wish Crosby would square up and fight like Iginla. Then Crosby would get much more respect from non-crosby fans. Last thing I have to say. Go leafs!
November 15, 2010 4:47 PM ET | Delete
The biased reporting on this incident is ridiculous. Avery may have hesitated in accepting the fight, but he did not sucker punch Smid as all of you would like to believe. Smid had time to drop his gloves, Avery just got his shot in very quickly. Sucker punching is what Crosby did to Brett MacLean right off the faceoff a few years back. Crosby tackles and punches the unknowing MacLean for no reason....but its funny how we only remember what we want to isnt it?
November 15, 2010 5:28 PM ET | Delete
counterfit5 - Why did Avery hesitate? Smid was A) man enough to ask and B) waited for Avery to accept/reject. Then Avery pulls the no...no...no...I'll wait until he's not looking and then drop the gloves? C'mon...it was classless...admit it.
November 15, 2010 6:08 PM ET | Delete
i didnt even see what happend, but ANY player that says no to a fight, then take a shot at the guy is a complete a$$
November 15, 2010 6:15 PM ET | Delete
Anyone who says Avery has the backing of the players on his team shouldn't be calling out others has having mental difficulties. Ask Dallas players what they thought of him. If the Rangers like him, I think it speaks more to the entire teams lack of character
November 15, 2010 6:30 PM ET | Delete
you all love to hate sean avery. plain and simple.
November 15, 2010 7:49 PM ET | Delete
If your gonna go after a player after a CLEAN HIT, you should be ready to take a punch. Smid obviously didn't get the memo. Smid had all the time in the world to give Avery a shot and skate away, but he didn't. How is it Avery's fault that Smid came after him?
November 15, 2010 7:59 PM ET | Delete
"Ask Dallas players what they thought of him. If the Rangers like him, I think it speaks more to the entire teams lack of character "That's a bit unfair, the other players on the Rangers roster dislike him, but they really can't be too open about it. The truth will come out after Avery leaves the team, just like as it has happened on every team Avery has been on before.Don't think there will be many takers for this clown after the Rangers get sick of him.
November 15, 2010 11:39 PM ET | Delete
Avery is a classless clown who possesses lower end 3rd line talent.He is an embarrassment to the league, his team, and to himself.He is however the most entertaining man in hockey
November 16, 2010 12:50 AM ET | Delete
Say what you want about him, but that "sloppy seconds" comment he made a couple years ago about Dianne phagoof's girlfriend was priceless! I only wish he was a Calgary Flame.
November 16, 2010 12:53 AM ET | Delete
....and before anyone else takes the jab; yes, under he would be a major upgrade for our top 6 forwards :-(
November 16, 2010 1:01 AM ET | Delete
Icedog97 - If Avery was classless to attack a man who was prepared to fight him, then what does that make Crosby's attack on MacLean? Let me guess, he is still a hero. Im not saying he is right in what he does, but its funny how these things are always a made into a big deal when it is Sean Avery. Why is okay for someone like Crosby to do that?
November 16, 2010 1:29 AM ET | Delete
if avery is classless than crosby is beyond scum. again tonight, he took out a goalies legs with a blatant trip. he punches people in the balls from behind. sucker punches. counterfit5 is right. fair enough, avery is classless. but than so is crosby, and even more so. so whats your point?
November 16, 2010 3:02 AM ET | Delete
November 16, 2010 4:40 AM ET | Delete
Smid is a is the joke: you wanna go? NoWell yo momma...Pow!!That's what happend
November 16, 2010 7:13 AM ET | Delete
I would love to see Sean Avery playing in the KHL. As soon as possible. Thank you.
November 16, 2010 9:53 AM ET | Delete
Never surprised by Avery's actions. He is a complete coward.
November 16, 2010 11:20 AM ET | Delete
Dee, I would love to see you with a paper bag over your head. As soon as possible. Thank you.
November 16, 2010 11:43 AM ET | Delete
Avery is Jesus. Fact.
November 16, 2010 11:56 AM ET | Delete
Smid: "I'm 6'3" and 226 pounds, fight me now!Avery: "I'm 5'11' and 195, I'll wait till you take off your visor".Smid: "No I wanna go now".Avery: "Take off your visor".Smid: "NO"!Avery: "O.K."BOOM!Down goes Smid! Down goes Smid!Motto: If you are a big doofus wearing a visor and you ask a much smaller guy to fight you had better be ready when he drops the gloves.Game, set, match to Avery.Get over it all you haters.
November 16, 2010 1:31 PM ET | Delete
November 16, 2010 1:40 PM ET | Delete
I made a point to say I did not agree with what Crosby has done in some of his "altercations" and yet people still want to act as if I said it's OK for Crosby but not for Avery. It's not. I disagree with any player "jumping" another unless the guy you jump just did something ridiculously out of line.
November 16, 2010 1:44 PM ET | Delete
And unlike what someone posted about being an Avery hater (not necessarily directed at me) I'm actually more on the side of wanting to like the guy because he does have some skills. but like last night and that terrible dive/jump into the boards after the hit from Martin...he does stuff that makes it harder and harder to respect him for the good things that he provides his team.
November 16, 2010 1:47 PM ET | Delete
Hockey allows fighting...which aside from boxing and MMA is banned in all other sports. As crazy as it sounds, the least guys like Avery could do is help to maintain some level of professionalism (lol as I type this) when it comes to this part of the game.
November 16, 2010 1:55 PM ET | Delete
And that goes for Crosby or anybody else that isn't involved in a split second action/reaction type event. And to answer another question...Sid's altercations have been relatively small in number...with a few..."did he really do that?" things that I was embarrassed of. But these are such small parts to his game...that yes, it is easier to overlook them. A guy that posts 100 point seasons and scores 50 goals...
November 16, 2010 1:56 PM ET | Delete
...is usually easier to forgive because he provides a lot of other things for his team. BUT...if Sid would continue to do those things, then yes, it would be a concern...even given his other contributions.
November 16, 2010 4:11 PM ET | Delete
You mean that dive/jump into the boards like Crosby is known for? That kind of dive?
November 16, 2010 4:17 PM ET | Delete
November 16, 2010 4:27 PM ET | Delete
any Penguins fan complain about a player from any other team diving is absolutely absurd...
November 16, 2010 7:21 PM ET | Delete
avery is awesome, get over it . at least he aint a complete pus**bi*** like crosby
November 16, 2010 8:14 PM ET | Delete
November 16, 2010 8:14 PM ET | Delete
malkin completely flopped and drew a "holding" penalty against callahan. so hes just as bad as avery but your definition. also, dupuis drew a penalty on gaborik by skating into his stick as they dug in the corner and falling. in addition, the refs let crosby get away with BLATANT SLASH ON GIRARDI (knocking his glove off and knocking his stick out of his hands) and TRIPPING LUNDQVIST (skating in a wider arc just to trip henrik.
November 16, 2010 8:15 PM ET | Delete
did u watch the effing game ice dog? avery got shoved from behind and he did jump a bit into the boards no doubt. if thats the worst of it than fine. in the same game dupuis took a flop, malkin to a FLOP, and crosby got away with a blatant slash and KICKING OUT LUNDQVIST FOOT.im not even arguing the calls. its just that
November 16, 2010 8:17 PM ET | Delete
if what avery did last night makes it hard for you to respect him than you should have ZERO RESPECT for malkin who took THREE FLOPS (thats three times as many as avery) last night and crosby WHO BLATANTLY SLAHED A PLAYER AND TRIPPED OUR GOALIE. (he kicked out henriks leg AND ITS NOT THE FIRST TIME HES DONE THAT)you penguin fans are such ignorant fools. everyone else sees how the league is rigged for you and how crosby and malkin are dirty pussballs.
November 16, 2010 8:19 PM ET | Delete
so far crosby has attacked 2 players who werent looking, punched a guy in the nuts, tripped goalies by kicking out their legs, and has taken COUNTLESS dives.malkin dives just as much and is notoriously known for his slew foots... so who is really a more dirty player? think about it.if u dont respect avery than u should have ZERO respect for crosby and malkin.
November 16, 2010 10:44 PM ET | Delete
Man...write a blog if you have so much to say about it. I am pretty sure I never said Crosby or Malkin were Saints. I think I was pretty objective in what I said. Did Sid do some classless things? YES. But there is a difference between a FLOP, which every player has done...and that terrible looking jump Avery made last night. Call it what it is...bad acting...followed by arguing that the bad acting was good.
November 16, 2010 10:48 PM ET | Delete
It seems you have some anger issues that don't let you see things very clearly. I'm having a hard time understanding how if the league is rigged for the Penguins, they lost to the Canadiens last year in the playoffs. Unless...oh yeah the other alternative...they got outplayed. Try not to generalize about Penguins fans being "ignorant fools". It just makes you look more bitter and less respectable.
November 16, 2010 10:51 PM ET | Delete
Yeah...I went there...RESPECTable...there's that word again. I'm glad you have an opinion that's different than mine. BUT understand you also have some Crosby/Malkin/Penguins hate issues that have nothing to do with me...or other knowledgeable Penguins fans...or probably even Crosby or Malkin themselves.
November 16, 2010 10:55 PM ET | Delete
One clarification...when I said did Sid do some classless things...I meant in reference to those fights you mentioned...not flopping. I jumped too quickly to my next point. In general though...ease up man...life is too short to spend it angry.
November 17, 2010 9:41 AM ET | Delete
Its funny how you choose to offer life lessons after you get your words in. You have a biased opinion of Avery, and once someone has a "biased" opinion of Crosby or Malkin or the Penguins, they are obviously, "too angry."
November 17, 2010 10:32 AM ET | Delete
My opinion of Avery is BASED on his body of work. Did you not read my positive comments about him? I don't hate the guy. I think he serves a purpose. I think he is pretty effective at what he does. I think what he did with Smid was cheap. I don't think he need to do that. I wrote about it because I thought it was something that even his players probably thought was out of line.
November 17, 2010 10:36 AM ET | Delete
I wrote about Cooke last year when he hit Savard. It angered me. It was "clean" by the rules...but cheap in my book. On the whole, I think Cooke gets more of a bad rep than he deserves. He an Avery are similar players. Would I deny that Cooke took a shot a Savard...hell no! But you seem to want to say what Avery did was OK.
November 17, 2010 10:39 AM ET | Delete
To me it wasn't. Crosby only entered the conversation because I thought some of the things he has done in the past were cheap too...and I din't write about them so I was trying to say beforehand that it's not OK for one and not the other. Is it tolerated more for one than the other...to a degree...yeah.
November 17, 2010 10:42 AM ET | Delete
From what I said, I really don't think I was bringing the hate. And, to be honest, I was a lot more angered by what Cooke did last year then by what Avery did afew days ago. I just think Avery makes himself look like a joke with some of the antics. Other players do too. I ain't hatin'...just sayin'
November 17, 2010 10:48 AM ET | Delete
You replied with "effin", "ignorant fools", "pussballs", implications that the league was fixed for the Penguins and pointed out a host of intentional rules infractions (by your assessment) that Crosby and Malkin have made in the past. Maybe I misunderstood those comments...but you seemed a bit angry.
November 17, 2010 1:17 PM ET | Delete
Sean avery is a disgrace to pickering ontario, that was blindsided for sure and smid is a defenceman oviously he has to keep an eye on the play, avery jus knew that he couldnt punch his way out of a wet paper bag so he cheapshotted him.
November 17, 2010 2:50 PM ET | Delete
Sean Avery is the only reason Pickering Ontario existed
November 18, 2010 10:59 AM ET | Delete
Not condoning what he did because kids were watching, but Wiz pretty much summed it up in one gesture.
November 19, 2010 9:49 AM ET | Delete
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