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Savard has a bad agent.
Posted 4:54 PM ET | Comments 27
I'm sorry... I must have misheard. You must be mistaken. 4.3 million cap hit for Savard? The guy is capable of 90 points and he cost less against the cap than Horcoff?

I would like to take this opportunity to let all elite center men know that Calgary would like to sign you for the amazing high salary of 5 million a year. Hell... we'll give you 5.5 million, as long as you get 90 points every year, are an elite passer, and good for at least a point per game in the season you get injured.

We have Jokinen right now. He going along at .77 points per game right now which is respectable however his 5.25 million a year is highly inflated given that Savard just signed for 4.3.

Langkow is a great 2nd line center, I love the way he plays, his skill, his vision, his grittiness but for 4.5 million?? We could have signed Savard!!! Do you think Boston will trade him here for Langkow?

Let's compare Savard to some other #1 centers in the league:
Horcoff - 5.5. million...ouch.
Jokinen- 5.25 million
Gomez- 7.3 million
Thornton- 7.2 million
H. Sedin- 6.1 million
Lecavalier- 7.3 million approx.
Crosby- 8.7 mil
Malkin- 8.7 mil
Datsyuk- 6.7 million
Getzlaf- 5.325 million

Of all of the above centers only 4 had more points than Savard last year... they are the last 4.

Savard has a bad agent.

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Filed Under:   Savard   Flames   Horcoff  
December 2, 2009 5:16 PM ET | Delete
home town discount. wants to stay with a good team. Horcoff is a rediculous signing to begin with... Savards 32, outside of Langkow is the only player over 30 on your list.
December 2, 2009 5:21 PM ET | Delete
you don't think he still could have got a shorter term with more money?
rei
December 2, 2009 6:22 PM ET | Delete
This will keep him employed till hes 37... and the first years of the deal he'll be making 7 million.
December 2, 2009 6:52 PM ET | Delete
Yeah of course it's front loaded, if he retired for the last two years they still have a 4.3 mill cap hit though. At the end of the day it's still a 30 mil contract and you have to wonder if he could have got more like 38.5...which I think would still be a fair value.
December 2, 2009 7:00 PM ET | Delete
It's not about the cap hit... it's about the total. You can basically write off the last year and probably the 2nd last year. It's more like a $6 million deal.
December 2, 2009 7:01 PM ET | Delete
If he retires before his contract is up, the salary comes off the books. Retired players have never counted against the cap, and probably never will. The Bruins still have to pay him the money he's owed, but they get $4.2-4.3 million (depending on your source) to re-sign one of the number one picks the Maple Leafs are going to give them from the Phil Kessel trade.
December 2, 2009 8:20 PM ET | Delete
This is a silly blog. Front loaded deal, didn't want to leave Boston, so he signed there for less money then he probably could have gotten from a non-contender. Don't see why you're blasting his agent though :/. Not everyone plays for the money.
4o3
December 2, 2009 9:54 PM ET | Delete
come on your better then that. he took less first of all to stay with the bruins, second because its a 7 year deal and 4.3 per season is easily more then what he would get on the open market at 38 or 39 years old. im sure if savard wanted to squeeze every penny out of some other team this summer he could have maybe gotten 5 per for the same term. maybe. not that big a difference. saying his agent made a bad deal is just stupid. insane opinion....
December 2, 2009 10:25 PM ET | Delete
I great should Calgary feel. Gave him away for nothing!
December 3, 2009 8:43 AM ET | Delete
hockey first...paycheck second...although he is still getting paid...the rest of the players should take notice
December 3, 2009 11:07 AM ET | Delete
December 3, 2009 12:20 PM ET | Delete
Another turd that doesn't know what he's talking about. As mentioned the deal was heavily front loaded. Though his cap hit is all that matters, it's meaningless comparing it to older deals.
December 3, 2009 5:01 PM ET | Delete
How the deal is structured is irrelivant if the bottom line is 30 mil and he could have got 38 mil... it's a bad deal for Savard. He WOULD have gottenmore than 5 as free agent. No sweat. I think all of those deals have a direct impact on each other, how did you think they came up with market value Zombie? I appreciate he took a hometown discount, that's character, it's his agents job to look past good charachter and show him the money.
December 3, 2009 5:03 PM ET | Delete
As an aside, I am NOT blasting Savard, in fact I really like him and was super mad when Calgary traded him.
December 3, 2009 5:27 PM ET | Delete
@ Saneopinion, My point is that you are comparing deals that have the "buyout" years built in to lower the cap hit vs old deals that dont. Like I said, a turd compares apples to cantalopes and try's to draw conclusions.
December 4, 2009 11:37 AM ET | Delete
Ok, found the details of his contract. He makes 1.5/.5/.5 in the last three years of his deal. Do you think that's just coincidence or do you think they did that on purpose so he could retire without leaving much money on the table?
December 4, 2009 11:39 AM ET | Delete
If you wanted to do an apples to apples comparison, his average over the first 4 years is 6.4 odds are he will leave the last three years on the table, and a 6.4/year contract for Savard is pretty resonable for himself and the team. If he plays the 5th year his average would be 5.4.
December 4, 2009 2:18 PM ET | Delete
For one comparing Orr to Crosby is probably an apples to cantalopes comparason so maybe watch where you tred. And yes... I'm not sure if you've read what I was saying or not but 30 is not as much as 38... bottom line... it's not as much. He could have got more and stayed in boston...bad agent.
December 4, 2009 2:21 PM ET | Delete
p.s. even at 6.4 mil/year three of the very comparable centers above, who LAST YEAR, had LESS points make MORE money...yeah you're right, you win his agent is f'n incredible...turd.
December 4, 2009 2:33 PM ET | Delete
My argument had nothing to do with his agent. It had to do with you saying. "oh look, savards cap his is 4.1 while Sedins is 6.1..." When they are uncomparable contracts.
December 4, 2009 2:34 PM ET | Delete
Also, Crosby/Orr. What are you talking about?
December 4, 2009 2:37 PM ET | Delete
As for the agent. "He could have got more and stayed in boston". And they would have likely had to lose other talent if he took more to stay. Do you not think it was his intention to try and keep the team as deep as possible?
December 4, 2009 3:09 PM ET | Delete
Looks like the contract is being investigated: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/bruins-use-cba-loophole-on-savard-deal/article1389104/
December 4, 2009 6:57 PM ET | Delete
Maybe he realises that being happy is worth more than money? Going through waivers and being traded isn't cool. Playing for crappy teams for alot of years. Maybe that factored into his decisions?
December 4, 2009 8:41 PM ET | Delete
25.5/4 = 6.375 a year up to the age 36/37...2.5 /3 averages out 2 .833 a year for the last 3. None of you have a clue what your talking about. Do you know how they get how much the cap hit is? in case you dont you take total money divided by years of contract which is 28/7 = 4 million a year.
December 10, 2009 6:40 PM ET | Delete
Unless you have a source close to the negotiations that says the agent is the one who made this deal and all Savard did was sign, it is not his agent's fault. Savard tells the agent how much he wants and for how long, his agent takes that number to the team and negotiates to get as close as he can for his client. Then the agent takes the ideas from those negotiations to Savard and asks him if he likes the numbers or if he wants to keep working at it.
December 10, 2009 6:42 PM ET | Delete
Yes, the agent does the legwork. But to say that Savard's agent is awful because this is the contract Savard chose to sign is like saying someone is poor because they don't live in the White House. The logic just doesn't work.
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